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July 06, 2020

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KC

Have they explored the possibility that the bear had cabin fever from quarantine and wanted to do some socially-distanced travel and skip a bunch of Zoom meetings?

TheQueen

KC - brilliant! I’m ready to go on a 400 mile walk myself.
What bothers me is that they are reporting Bruno’s Journey is at an end. You can’t cage Bruno. If he really is in the state park, he can walk right out and keep heading south.

KC

Well, you *can* cage Bruno, but they haven't. So yes, if he was headed for Mexico, then he can still be headed for Mexico...

TheQueen

KC - THAT is my fervent wish.

KC

I wonder what ICE would do about a bear roaming through their No Man's Land territory?

(I do not feel kindly towards the ICE. The latest thing: they're currently performing the double-header of 1. threatening international students and 2. coercing colleges to be In Person Only in the fall [because if they swap to online-only, then their international students will get arrested and imprisoned because their visas expire, *unless* their international students can somehow leave the country to go somewhere that will accept people from the plague-infested US - even if the international student is a grad student and is using resources at that college to finish their research, etc.] and I think this SUCKS. So I'd be happy if they couldn't abuse their powers because they're too busy dealing with migratory bears...)

TheQueen

KC - perhaps the international student issue will be punted to the states, so the admin can posture as strong but states will do the right thing. Or, the bear option, that would work too.

KC

As far as I understand, it can't be punted to the states, because it's a visa issue and ICE is the one who issues/cancels visas and goes and hauls off students. (like, literally: white van with no windows, detainment facility that's worse than prison; a friend went through it when he believed the office that told him on the phone that of course he didn't have to leave the country because it was that office's fault that his green card had gotten delayed such that his visa would expire before the green card was finalized.)(so I also have zero expectation that they'll leave international students alone, which I otherwise would have had; this was even the previous federal administration, and I assume it's even worse now.)

But I'd love to be wrong in some way that results in the system actually *working properly* and fewer people dying and whatnot.

TheQueen

KC - oh, that sounds awful about your friend!

KC

Yeah, it was REALLY bad. They didn't even schedule a bail hearing until a local newspaper picked up the case and published it - our friend was just... stuck. But eventually: bail hearing, then trial with release, and longer-eventually green card. But, like, lasting trauma and also we all had a massive realization that no, "the system" is not working mostly-correctly, and no, it is not "in good faith" - it is for the numbers and they don't care what the human cost is for getting their numbers up for more funding, etc.

TheQueen

KC - the only person I know who seemed to be treated well by immigration was a former British priest who lived here without citizenship until Bush was elected and then he took his test and got a perfect score. I mean, I think that is ICE’s dream immigrant.

KC

Lots of people do have things "work" more or less correctly with student visas and green cards (although I have heard that the green card process for people who are married is... aggressive, in terms of trying to catch you out in some sort of evidence that it's only a marriage of convenience). So there is that; I know more people who have had things be at least basically okay (if obnoxious and heavy on the paperwork and chasing things and runarounds and looking up bizarre proofs of specific information and stuff), than people who have had Really Serious Problems.

But when ICE screws up, it's not ICE who suffers for it. And when ICE makes decisions like this, likewise. Or smashes caches of water along the southern border, or...

TheQueen

KC - it’s all so opposed to the melting pot ideal I was taught in grade school and high school.

KC

Honestly, I don't think there's ever been a time when the Statue of Liberty poem has *actually* been something the political/social leaders want to do. However, grade school tries to paint things in very attractive colors, possibly because "people mostly stop sharing with people they don't especially like, once they get out of kindergarten" is a bad way to teach sharing?

(The whole "we value human life! except immigrants!" thing also pisses me off, as does the "therefore they are animals" rhetoric. Hello, folks, check out where your own family tree had desperate immigrants in it!)

TheQueen

KC - I was surprised one of the two times I babysat for churchgoers. The mother called to see how things were and I mentioned her daughter and friend were fighting because the daughter wouldn’t share her toys. “Why should she share?” the mother asked, offended. “They're HER toys.” So, evidently sharing isn’t a virtue everyone agrees on.

KC

UH. Wow. My church experiences may not be exactly typical (I have suspected this for a while, because I am, uh, not part of a Voting Block), but church=sharing. ALL THE SHARING.

(I do think it's okay for kids to not share "comfort" toys, and okay for kids to have some autonomy over the disposition of their "special" toys as well - fragile ones or the one totally-new one [although in that case, if there are other kids around who want to play with those toys, then you put those toys away in a safe place and do not keep playing with them in front of them][kids usually don't want to play with other kids' comfort toys?]. But in general: y'all share. This is how it works.)

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