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July 03, 2007



I was one of The Company's reps to Monsanto in the early to mid '70s. I occasionally found myself stopped at traffic lights in East St. Louis. I drove a convertable sports car then, and even with the doors locked, that cloth top left me feeling very vulnerable. At night,I RAN the red lights!

Never heard of Sauget, but if I'd have to go through ESL to get there....

Um, maybe they're less worried about the location than the crowd it might draw?


When I was in my early 20's I had a friend who was afraid to walk across a parking lot by herself, even in friendly neighborhoods. Today it seems there are precious few such places. Still, how awful to be paralyzed by fear like that.

Having said that, I too will pas on the tickets. But thanks for offering!


Is it really that bad if a minor league baseball team plays there? I bet as long as you don't wear anything provocative (heh), you'll be fine.


I'll go with you.
I love Counting Crows and I'm impudent.

We'll pack our brass knuckles and mace.

Friend #3

Sauget (pronounced So-jhay) is the bachelor/sad-post-adolescent-male party capital of the St. Louis metropolitan area. And the Google Earth photos depict the infamous fields of southern Illinois (regardless of municipal boundaries) where the local television news stations report "a body was found in a field near [insert your choice of Brooklyn, Washington Park, Sauget or East St. Louis here]."

This is why God created I-255.

I might suggest we just go see the Counting Crows in downtown Tikrit. Pack your Hijaab.

Catherine (the Red)

Unbelievable! You forgot about me didn't you! I enjoy the Counting Crows and Sauget does not bother me.


Florida-style thunderstorms scare the crap out of me and I lived there for 10 years. Orlando, lightning capital of the world. So that I understand.

Re: Sauget and CC, if they're always reporting dead bodies there, I think I would probably stay home that night. Just sayin.


You powderpuff. I used to date a guy who lived in a ghetto in Gary. I was the only white person for blocks in any direction. I, being from gunculterusa, carried a loaded .357 in plain view at (almost) all times. It was a huge thing and quite visible, and I promise no one messed with me.

*rolls eyes at self*

BTW the new ball park they built up there was right in the ghetto part. It is to lure whites back to the area I believe. My then bofriend's Mexican mama's first question to us, when we came to her house after a game, was, "were there white people there?"

If you build it they will come!

Oh, I did not carry the gun to the park. Bad MOJO and all that. No one messed with me. Go, you'll be safe.


Native to Orlando, not really bothered by the thunderstorms. I just don't stand outside.

Also in Orlando, the biggest auditorium and exposition center in town is snugged right up against the absolute worst neighborhood. Often you have to park your car in one of the lots where the sketchiest houses are. That's where the nice policemen stand at their most obvious. Been there a number of times late at night, never seen, heard, or been subject to anything beyond someone trying to persuade me to pay them $5 to park in their yard.

And it's not like you'd be there by yourself. There's bound to be at least a few hundred other folks, if not a few thousand. And nice policemen. It doesn't do to have violent crime in areas where they want to attract folks in order to make money. The moneymaking powers that be tend to frown upon it.

I've got plenty of things I'm scared about, but I try not to inflict my irrationality on others. If Karen were my sister, she'd be far, far tougher (because I'm evil.)


I'd go to the ball park, but not for the concert. It just doesn't interest me.

Whenever they find bodies in Sauget, they usually report that they were dumped there. I don't believe a lot of people are killed there. So as long as you're alive when you enter, there's a very high probability you'll leave there alive as well.


~Silk - Ha! Okay, I think you are the only person commenting who has actually set foot in that part of town.
Connie - Hm. I think Karen is okay with parking lots. Perhaps not, since every year one of her Christmas gifts to me was a fresh mace keychain.
David - Oh, you with your "heh!"
Robin - You are impudent, you shameless thing.Actually, Gary is all hot to go now that he knows I've lost my taste for it.
Friend #3 - Gary says his friends who visit the strip clubs always rent a car to go to Sauget, in case the car gets stolen.
Catherine the Red - I didn't forget about you! When was the last time you were in Sauget, though?
Becs - Yeah...I'm still inclined to stay home. I did drive in a thunderstorm today, though. Amusingly, the late afternoon thundershowers Karen was avoiding struck at noon, the newly scheduled time for the fourth celebration.
Zayrina - Oh, no one messed with you because you exude sass. I exude "Stout middle-aged Nice Lady." Even when I make the oral sex rock gesture.
Sherri - Yeah, that's thing - we had to stay late at the in-laws because it was still raining and it would have upset Karen if anyone else had driven in the storm.
Caroline - Why, I bet the bodies are killed in St. Charles at that bar Marcia hates and then dumped in Sauget.

Hot Mom

What I know about Sauget:

1) That's where my cousin used to "disappear" when she was doing her week-long drug runs.

2) That's where the car she stole to do a week-long drug run was stolen from her.

3) My other cousin, drug-cousin's brother, is afraid to go there and pick her up when she's been on a week-long drug run and had her stolen car stolen from her.

Love Counting Crows. Not going to Sauget.


The area around the ballpark at Sauget seems pretty tame to me. I wouldn't worry about it at all.


Hot Mom - well, she was there for a week and the worst thing that happened to her was her car was stolen.
ajooja - Boy, it sure looks tame. And you can get there from 255 and approach it from the South. AND I googled "Shooting + GCS Ballpark" and didn't find anything.

Friend #3

Try googling "Decomposed body + GCS Ballpark".


Freind #3 - First, go to bed. Second, All I found was http://karenmcl.blogspot.com/2007/03/any-cardiology-or-cardiac-surgery.html
...which tells me they put burgers on Krispy Kreme donuts instead of buns there!


I am in awe about the horror surrounding East St.Louis...I have a friend from St. Louis and the stories he told too...



Crunchy - Man...the infamy made it all the way to Canada!

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