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Hattie

This is a whole lot of suffering. Sigh. It's like going back 50 years.

theQueen

Hattie - actually, I think my city was 20 years behibnd on intergation. Weren't schools integrated in the mid 50s? My school had a court-ordered desegration in 1974. So that's probably one reason it seems like the 60s here.

Hattie

I don't know, because I was out of public school by 1957 and my daughters went to public schools in the 80s' which were de facto segregated. This was in Oregon, with its history of expulsion of black people, and Portland was (and is) residentially segregated and pretty racist if you ask me. My admittedly brief acquaintance with St. Louis leads me to believe it is way more integrated with a strong African American presence, culturally and every other way. Of course a lot of whites are racist there, but you are not acting as if Blacks don't exist, the way they do in a lot of the Pacific Northwest. I wish you all well! You are not as backward as you think.

theQueen

Hattie - All I know is that in the last few weeks St. Louis has been compared to New York, Boston, Oakland, and every other major city, and we look sick. Our police, in particular, look like jackasses. Not like those cool New York police who put up with all kinds of protest without tear spray or military gear.

Incidentally, we seem to have handed the protest chore over to the big cities. There are about 12 people nightly in front of the Ferguson police dept, but that's it. No one got shot by the National Guard, and that's great.

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