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Becs

Amen.

I get the message. And crowds can be crazy. My very brief sojourn on OWS saw half a dozen people restraining a stupid boy from harassing the police officers.

The war vet, when I last read anything about him, was still unable to speak and the hospital was trying to determine what other effects were left because of his brain injury.

Zayrina

An old wise man once told me some important words to consider: "if you fuck with the bull you get the horns".

Additionally I get really tired of "cards" that people pull out in order to garner sympathy or to sway individual's opinions. In this particular instance the card pulled and played is "Iraq war veteren". When I worked in the prison infirmary this was an oft used and abused card. I would tell the offender that it was a pity that he went from vet to thug. (incidently they lied a lot about this and usually never had spent a minute serving)

TheQueen

Becs - I thought of you and your angry young man. That is how it is done.
Zayrina - I look forward to hearing the War vets side of things. Doctors say he'll be fully recovered in a few weeks.

Tami

It is my confirmed opinion that you don't throw things at police officers who aren't committing physical violence. If you see some cops beating on someone, that's one story, but if they're just giving you the stink eye? Take it. No one ever got a broken bone from the stink eye.

I also have the experience of hearing a great disturbance in a public place. I also went the hell home, because I didn't want to be in the middle of a dangerous situation. It's the not-stupid thing to do.

Hattie

Of course the reaction was bound to set in. Civil unrest scares the crap out of people, and they will settle for a lot of injustice in the name of law and order.
As long as it's just stupid stuff like sports events riots Middle America doesn't get too upset, but to be demonstrating for real change...no, that's too scary.

Amy in StL

OMG, I'm so glad to hear another liberal say this. All my friends think it's horrible that police gassed the protesters - who had been throwing stuff at the police. I had the exact same discussion with three liberal friends. (BTW, I'm probably the most bleeding heart liberal in the city) If there's violence going on, I'll leave. If the police say they'll use gas, I'll leave. I don't care how you think the police are doing illegal things; I'm leaving.

Hattie

I fully appreciate how frightened people are by all this. But I went through the 60's, kids. If you're scared now, prepare to be a lot more scared before this is over.
And in the meantime, try to have some fun.

TheQueen

Tami - I can almost picture something I would feel passionately enough about that I would put myself in harm's way, but I'd want to face off with the bad guys, not the police.
Hattie - Yes! I was hoping I'd hear your view. So there's disobedience (Selma), then unrest, then revolution (France! Barricades.) Can't we attack the problem without involving the poorly-paid guys with the guns?
Amy - I can't get over how so many media outlets are only telling one side of the story. And think what a good story it would be if they investigated like they did in Toronto last year and found out the paint-throwers were police plants.
Hattie - I can see how lobbing water and paint at Wall Street execs would be fun. Lobbing things at the police, no. They make less than the protestors. They are the less than 1 percent of the 99 percent. Sign me up for pie throwing (or better, boycotting those big Wall Street firms and banks).

Tami

You know how Hattie says this is going to get a lot scarier? She's right. We hit a tipping point of wealth imbalance, the kind that everybody notices. I don't think that this will be the first time in history that such a tipping point ends peacefully. When the people at the bottom outnumber the people at the top 99 to 1, someone usually starts shooting.

TheQueen

Tami - I hear that Nov 5 is switch your bank day. Go to http://www.thegeminiweb.com/babyboomer/ for the Nov 1 post

Tami

Hmmm. I currently have an account at Bank of America, my mortgage with Wells Fargo, and an account with the credit union for my alumni association. Having the credit union feels good, but the ease of having an account with the BoA giant is very convenient.

Hmmm.

TheQueen

Tami - Yeah, BofA is great unless you want to transfer money to a Caifornian. Weird rule. Perhaps that's why they lifted their new five buck debit card rule today, they know Saturday is coming up.

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